Also - not mentioned in the essay but worth discussing: NBC's Community is not only a better show than 30 Rock this year, it, along with Arrested Development, might be among the first 'post-postmodern' sitcoms. -NA
YES. Community is the only show on NBC I watch anymore -- although the last couple of episodes have not been so good.
posted by Chris__ at 2010-04-04 19:16:00 
Yes to community. But can you really just say "it, along with Arrested Development, might be among the first 'post-postmodern' sitcoms," without any explanation or anything? <br /><br /> <br /><br /> Sponge Bob Squarepants.
posted by alesh at 2010-04-05 10:27:12
Whoops! You're quite right. Sorry 'bout that.<br /><br /> <br /><br /> I guess what I'm thinking is that while the Simpsons, Family Guy and 30 Rock use all that winking irony to return to stable or familiar ideals: the family in the animated shows and the pursuit of success or love in 30 Rock.<br /><br /> <br /><br /> Community does the whole self-reflexive thing too, but not in the service of returning to what we know; instead, it's about finding a non-traditional family and making do at a community college. So instead of upending 'master narratives' by playing with them, it actually suggests new narratives - which is what I think the thing after postmodernism has to do. In a sense, art/entertainment have to return to being sincere without being naive -i.e. have to actually state a belief in something without trotting out hoary cliches about 'fundamental truths' or whatever.<br /><br /> <br /><br /> And now that I've typed it out, it seems sorta' silly and full of holes - but there ya' go.
posted by Nav at 2010-04-05 11:15:07
What about Modern Family?
posted by marrina at 2010-04-05 15:50:23
Never seen it, but I hear it's pretty similar in tone/vibe? Do tell.
posted by Nav at 2010-04-05 19:37:28
Nav, right on. That's why it seems so refreshing to me. Even when episodes don't work, it's still not the point-and-laugh circus sideshows that now pass for TV. Its constant references to the 80s are appropriate -- if it came out in the mid-80s, it'd fit in nicely ... now, the aw-shucks tone of the series seems revolutionary.
posted by Chris__ at 2010-04-05 23:06:23
Modern Family is well constructed, funny, and has great characters. It's not as.. pretentious, I guess, as 30 Rock which is actually what this <a href="http://trueslant.com/donovan/2010/04/06/modern-family-is-the-best-sitcom-on-tv/" target="_blank">article </a>talks about as well.
posted by marrina at 2010-04-07 11:04:02
